Posts by raymond frantz

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Gaslighting older JW couples to avoid BLAME

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/kvdqtookscu?si=fuqhj44cokmdzkt7.

one of the greatest issues facing the organization today is couples that sacrificed family life or businesses opportunity in order to preach the many dates the watchtower set in the .

past only to be betrayed in recent years as the watchtower is moving away from date setting.

Gaslighting older JW couples to avoid BLAME

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/kvdqtookscu?si=fuqhj44cokmdzkt7.

one of the greatest issues facing the organization today is couples that sacrificed family life or businesses opportunity in order to preach the many dates the watchtower set in the .

past only to be betrayed in recent years as the watchtower is moving away from date setting.

In my lifetime and I'm in my 50's I saw many leaving in the early 90's when the Watchtower walked away from the generation that will see the End teaching, and later the overlapping generation. Not to mention the favor around the end of the century. See how the gb member is warning about the expectation around the setting of dates, something they admit to indirectly

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Gaslighting older JW couples to avoid BLAME

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/kvdqtookscu?si=fuqhj44cokmdzkt7.

one of the greatest issues facing the organization today is couples that sacrificed family life or businesses opportunity in order to preach the many dates the watchtower set in the .

past only to be betrayed in recent years as the watchtower is moving away from date setting.

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/kVDqTOOkSCU?si=FuQhj44cOkMdzKT7

One of the greatest issues facing the organization today is couples that sacrificed family life or businesses opportunity in order to preach the many dates the Watchtower set in the

Past only to be betrayed in recent years as the Watchtower is moving away from date setting. Who's fault was that? As you will see from this video in typical Governing body fashion they blame the rank and file and they refuse to acknowledge the problem or even apologise.

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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS

by raymond frantz in

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https://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.

shame is an ancient form of control.

shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.

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@magnum

This 3 part video was leaked over the weekend on reddit, as far as I am aware the original poster didn't indicate when was that produced.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

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uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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In the main time Andrew Gold his ex friend current archenemy has become a major youtuber in the UK, he started mentioning Scientology the other day and he stopped short at mentioning the Watchtower and his lordship. Hopefully millions more will get to find out the truth about him soon

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EXPLOSIVE NEW LEAKED VIDEO OF C.O. CHASTISING ELDERS

by raymond frantz in

jw
friends

https://youtu.be/np05twylal8?si=wjcdevvpxmlwxb2p.

shame is an ancient form of control.

shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour.

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/NP05tWYLAL8?si=wjcdevVPxmlWXB2P

Shame is an ancient form of control. Shame is the mechanism used to control behaviour. Most of us are capable of feeling shame for our own actions without anyone else having to shame us. The Watchtower is using watching pornography to shame it's male members in all levels of authority. This is the 3 part video that was leaked few days ago.

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WATCHTOWER OCT '24: HOW TO BE A HAPPY WINDOW CLEANER

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/sbh213gbedo?si=ceeaip451t6i0zjp.

so as they say one picture is as strong as a thousand words and here you have it guys in the latest study edition of the watchtower for october 2024 that has just been posted on their website a middle aged jw window cleaner dreaming of the new system where things will get better.

why does the watchtower need to talk now about jws on minial self employed jobs?

raymond frantz

If you watch the video I don't knock window cleaners ,I'm only attacking the Watchtower for forcing wrong financial advise to millions of jws for decades and now that things are turning bad worldwide with the living standards crisis they want you to fantasise about the new system

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WATCHTOWER OCT '24: HOW TO BE A HAPPY WINDOW CLEANER

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/sbh213gbedo?si=ceeaip451t6i0zjp.

so as they say one picture is as strong as a thousand words and here you have it guys in the latest study edition of the watchtower for october 2024 that has just been posted on their website a middle aged jw window cleaner dreaming of the new system where things will get better.

why does the watchtower need to talk now about jws on minial self employed jobs?

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/sBH213GbEdo?si=cEeAIp451T6i0zjP

So as they say one picture is as strong as a thousand words and here you have it guys in the latest Study Edition of the Watchtower for October 2024 that has just been posted on their website a middle aged jw window cleaner dreaming of the new system where things will get better. Why does the Watchtower need to talk now about jws on minial self employed jobs? The answer is given on the first paragraph of Study Article 43 with the title how to overcome your doubts:

PEOPLE of all ages have doubts at times. For example, imagine a young Witness who wonders if Jehovah is really interested in him. He may be unsure about getting baptized. Or think about a middle-aged brother who in his youth chose to pursue Kingdom interests rather than a career in this world. With the family budget now stretched to the limit, he may be having second thoughts

People are having doubts now because they were given bad financial advise in the past by the Watchtower. Instead of pursuing a prosperous career in their younger years and have enough to retire in their older years they were instead given bad advise by the Watchtower to pursue pioneering and live off goverment benefits while doing minial jobs like window cleaning or gardening. Nothing wrong with window cleaning or gardening what is wrong is that a super rich organization convinced them to abandon going into university, getting a degree or sacrifice lucrative jobs so they can work free of charge for them. Now that these people are looking back on what they sacrificed they are having doubts about this organization. Paragraph 10

expands on this thought even further:

Later in life, some could think back and wonder whether they made the right decisions. Perhaps they decided to give up a promising career or a successful business in order to serve Jehovah more fully. Now time has passed, perhaps even decades. They may see acquaintances who pursued secular interests and who now enjoy apparent financial security. As a result, they may wonder: ‘Were the sacrifices I made for Jehovah worth it? Or did they cause me to miss other opportunities?’

It is the living standards crisis that is currently hitting every person on the planet, higher gas prices, higher food prices, higher rend or mortgages rates. People don't have the time or the energy anymore to indulge crazy cult directives. They finally admitted themselves in the first paragraph that people are struggling when they say " with the family budget now stretched to the limit, they may have doubts."

SInce they admit to thisproblem what practical solution do they have to offer? Are you ready for it? OK, close your eyes, now imagine you are standing in God's heavenly sanctuary, now feel refreshed and think of all the nasty people gone.Ok? Problem solved.That is the solution. You don't believe me? read on in paragraph 12

The psalmist went to the peaceful setting of Jehovah’s sanctuary. There, he was able to think clearly. He discerned that even though the life of some might seem easy, their long-term future was precarious. With this insight, he found peace of mind, knowing that pursuing spiritual things was the very best decision. As a result, he renewed his determination to continue serving Jehovah...You can find similar peace of mind with the help of God’s Word. How? Contemplate the value of what you have—including treasures in heaven—and compare this to the outcome for those whose only reward is what this world has to offer. They may completely rely on their achievements in this life because they anticipate nothing else in the future. For you, however, Jehovah promises blessings far beyond anything you could ever imagine. (Ps. 145:16) Also, consider this: Can we ever really know how our life would have turned out if we had made different decisions?

So their solution is an imaginary once as you see in this photo of the aging jw window cleaner dreaming of Paradise. Or in other words the fulfill the words of James 2:16 of the evil slave, where it says in New Living Translation:

And you (=the governing body) say, “Good-bye and have a good day (=jw window cleaners in a stretched family budget); stay warm and eat well”—but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?

And since they pride themselves being like the first century Christians, let's see what the early Christian Church did when the Brotherhood encountered a standard of living crisis in Acts 2:44-46

All those who became believers were together and had everything in common, 45 and they were selling their possessions (=or their real estate billion dollar empire they build over 100 years) and properties and distributing the proceeds to all, according to what each one needed. 46 And day after day they were in constant attendance in the temple with a united purpose, and they took their meals in different homes and shared their food with great rejoicing and sincerity of heart,

So here is the thing, you claim to be a follower of Christ sell everything, Bethel homes, World Headquarters,kingdom halls and put the money in the bank. Tell everyone to start meeting at home Bible study groups and create a universal fund that all jws around the world have access to and can claim financial relief according to their circumstances right? That's what the first Christians did right? Tell me where I'm wrong. But you know and I know that is the last thing they have in mind. What they have in mind is defrauding local congratulations from their Kingdom Halls and sell them at a market price, recent example the UK branch that defrauded local congregations from their kingdom halls and reported 250 million surplus in one their charities OR defrauding rank and file jws that struggle financially now like the brother in the photo by going after the property of their elderly parents who are so heavily indoctrinated that instead of leaving their property to their relatives the leave it to the Watchtower.

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Apostates are still public enemy number one - WATCHTOWER August 2024

by raymond frantz in

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https://youtu.be/rqyqibpnuos?si=zayoa2c-zvmj9_br.

under the theme "help for those who are removed from the congregation" study article 35 in august 2024 wafchtower that deals with the many changes the organization introduced recenly we specifically look into paragraphs 14 and 15 that deal with the way that we now treat disfellowshipped ones, or more accurately removed ones , since this is the new term.

and see how they still try to micromanage their members down to the finest detail and how still apostates and more accurately active apostates are public enemy number one.

raymond frantz

https://youtu.be/rQyQIBpnUos?si=zaYoa2C-zvmj9_br

Under the theme "Help for Those Who Are Removed From the Congregation" Study Article 35 in August 2024 Wafchtower that deals with the many changes the organization introduced recenly we specifically look into paragraphs 14 and 15 that deal with the way that we now treat disfellowshipped ones, or more accurately removed ones , since this is the new term. And see how they still try to micromanage their members down to the finest detail and how still apostates and more accurately active apostates are public enemy number one. So without further ado we read in the paragraph 14 the first half :

Does what we have considered mean that we would completely ignore a person who has been removed from the congregation? Not necessarily.Certainly, we would not socialize with him. (=notice the sentence "completely ignore" which is what the practiced up to now to "not socialize with him" which is what they want you to do now.

So how do you go from ignoring someone to not socialize with him? It is this tiny grey area that they want to define for you now and they explain further on in the paragraph.

But Christians can use their Bible-trained conscience in deciding whether to invite a person who was removed from the congregation—perhaps a relative or someone they were close to previously—to attend a congregation meeting.

Did you notice the weasel get out of jail words? "Bible trained conscience" it's the famous 3 words they have used over and over in their publications to make their case to the courts that it us not them it's use who decides now who to associate with. We don't disfellowship our members it is our followers who decide to do so based on their Bible trained conscience. Brilliant and I love it! Now the paragraph continues :

What if he attends? In the past, we would not greet such a person. Here again, each Christian needs to use his Bible-trained conscience in this matter. Some may feel comfortable with greeting or welcoming the person to the meeting. However, we would not have an extended conversation or socialize with the individual.

Again the famous three words "Bible trained conscience " but thus time they define the premise, "SOME may feel comfortable with greeting or welcoming the person to the meeting".Let me tell you how that works out and that is how I have experienced it myself. You turn up at the meeting ,if the brother elder welcomes you shakes your hand then that signals to the rest that are free to do so themselves. Mind you most of the old guard don't like this new arrangement so they carry on being their unfriendly lot they used to be. But don't get carried away as the Watchtower says "we would not have an extended conversation or socialize with the individual." Talking about micromanaging rank and file down to the most minute detail!

So now thay will give you the new Biblical background of how they came about with this groundbreaking change. We read in paragraph 15 :

Some may wonder, ‘Doesn’t the Bible say that a Christian who says a greeting to such a person becomes a sharer in his wicked works?’ (Read 2 John 9-11.)

Did you notice again the weasel words? "Some may wonder" l wonder how this wonder came about? Could it be that YOU wrote in your magazines for decades that anyone associating with a disfellowshipped person is a a sharer in their wicked words? I didn't wonder about it, I read about it in your magazines and then it was drummed into my ears from countless elders from the platform. I didn't just start thinking about it. But you see this is their modus operanti the way they always distance themselves from any incriminating thing they wrote in the past. It wasn't ME that wrote about it ,it was used that thought about it. Do you see how that works? The paragraph continues:

The context of this scripture shows that this direction refers to apostates and others who actively promote wrong conduct. (Rev. 2:20)

Let's read this verse because they only quote it, there it says "Nevertheless, I do hold this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezʹe·bel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and misleads my slaves to commit sexual immorality and to eat things sacrificed to idols". Do you see that woman Jezebel? This is you going around the congregation spreading apostasy that Samuel Herd looks papa smurf with a beard or that Stephen Lett looks like a clown. So the paragraph continues:

Therefore, if a person is actively promoting apostate teachings or other wrongdoing, the elders would not arrange to visit him.

Let me break that down for you, the key word is ACTIVELY. What that means is a brand new thing and I experienced it myself first hand. Up to recently you were not allowed to even have apostate thoughts in your head, they even made a drama about this a couple of years ago.A sister was having apostate thoughts and was counceled, it was there as convention drama few years ago. Talking about Communist China and Big Brother. This is not working anymore, anyone with a mobile phone and 5 minutes to spare can be a little apostate now. So they have created 2 classes now the active and the inactive apostates. Don't you love how they love creating classes for everything? In other words it is already to have apostate thoughts in your mind or watching funny exjw apostate videos just as long as you don't talk about it. That's been inactive. But when start making videos or have a website then automatically you get to be a dreadful active apostate, you become a little Jezabel from the book of Revelation and that's when you become enemy number one. So what happens in that case? The paragraph continues :

Of course, there is hope that he will come to his senses. Until that happens, though, we would neither greet such a person nor invite him to attend a congregation meeting

So being an active apostate is like being the big bad wolf, so no greetings for you at the meeting and no visits from the elders.

https://www.jwupdates.com/post/apostates-are-still-public-enemy-number-one-watchtower-august-2024

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Why the term "disfellowshipped " was removed

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/ags07jlopcy?si=g9ra1jqksuuauyax.

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https://youtu.be/Ags07jlopcY?si=G9rA1JQKSUuaUyAX